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It also brings to home just how small and vulnerable mankind is. Having the arrogance to believe it can control anything; controlling wars(!!), controlling nature (extinction of many species), controlling space …(not yet, but getting there fast!!), etc., etc., etc.

When something like this happens man runs with his tail between his legs as the negative force of the weather can obviously not yet be controlled. Maybe the issue of climate protection should finally be taken seriously (as yes, there will be future generations.... !!!), and ALL G8 nations and those contributing to the pollution to finally agree to the UN's Kyoto protocol to decrease CO2 emissions, to descrease the chance of this happening to this extreme again!

Good luck, Marcia!

My thoughts are with all the people who lost their lives.

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Kaz, while Hurricanes typhoons etc are devastating I have to dispute that the strength of them is caused by mankind's foolishness. To think we have such a huge effect on the life of the planet is almost as arrogant as believing we can control everything that nature throws at us. Nature has ways of correcting imbalances and extinction is one of those ways. That may mean the extinction of most life as we know it including our own species but it doesn't necessarily mean the end of all life.

Hurricanes are a regular feature of that area of the western Atalantic and have been for thousands if not millions of years. The name hurricane is derived from the Carib god of evil, Huracan.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/20..._hurricane.html

http://geography.about.com/cs/hurricanes/a/hurricane.htm

Anyway, Marcie if you're reading this sorry for going off topic. I hope you and your family are well and we hope to hear from you soon.

Keep safe.

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Brenda, what a relief to see Marcia's name on there as ALIVE. I hope it IS her.

Thank you very much for posting that. :)

Hope your brother and his family are safe and well too.

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I thinkking that wee neddiing to looking att hee way bigger pictture hhere and that is that peopple dieed and peoplle are hommeless and peopple are suffering . We needding to aksiingnourselffs why was this alooweed to happeneing so badly when this ssort opf thiing was not new too the arrea and yet , whhy was the levyys not madded more bigger or strongger ?

Muz , while I wantiing to saying spmething right now , I will sayin gonly tyhat i amm afarrid your wrong on your ppoint but i wil not sayying this ere bbeecuuase THIS space is for our memeebers and one of them is not heardded from and we neeeding to being wowried abbout that rright now .

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Greetings all - I am not in fact Marcia - I am her brother Jack in Dallas, TX. She asked me to let you all know that she is doing fine, as is the rest of our family along the Gulf Coast. We had some anxiety, to be sure; I was talking to her Monday morning as the storm rolled in and she said, "Oh my God, there's water up to our ankles, what are we going to do?"

And then the phone went dead.

Biloxi is a disaster area, and they are without electricity or water, but the house survived (many in her area didn't, as I'm sure you've seen on the tv) with some damage - and apparently there were fish in their pool. I've talked to her a couple of times this week although it's still hard to get a call in or out.

She's helping her daughter clean up (more like four feet of water in her daughter's house) and is planning to escape soon to Memphis where there is light and water and AIR CONDITIONING and maybe even gasoline.

Anyway, I'll try to check in here this weekend and answer any questions, but the main thing is that Marcia and family are alive and well and trying to figure out how you clean mud out of your house without running water!

Jack Williams

Dallas, TX

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Hi Jack,

How very kind of you to post on Marcia's behalf... Thank you very much!

(Also, very thoughtful of Marcia to ask you to let us know :) )

I, along with many others here, was very worried about Marcia. I'm very glad to hear that she is alive and well and that her house also survived. She is one of the lucky ones.

Thanks again,

Afet

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I second what Afet said. I also wanted to say that when Marcia posted that she was staying I thought she must be well prepared etc etc. When the storm was rolling in (I watch the news most of the day sunday) I was afraid for her and her family, and my brother and his family as to me it looked grimmer and grimmer by the minute. Living in Florida having had 3 come through my area last year plus the ones that I've experienced in past years I knew of the devestation that these storms can cause point in case Andrew in Aug of 1992 it leveled Homestead it was predicted as a catagory 4 and it was later determined a catagory 5. So with this knowledge and watching the news I was fearing the worst. Anyway Monday watching the news Tue watching the news Wed I couldn't watch any longer tried calling the red cross to ask questions line busy then get through and wait for (I'm not kidding) two hours listening to the message that said due to high volume of calls your call will be handled by the next available agent in the order in which it was recieved. I stayed up until 3:30 trying to get through with no luck more worrying so on and off all day I'm searching these message boards for anything that said that my brother his family and Marcia was Ok. No luck with my brother found him as unknown on that link I provided made me worry more. Then I searched for Marcia's name found it and prayed it was our Marcia. Apparently it was from Jacks posting and I'm so relieved that it's her and that she ok. As for me my brother during this time of calling his cell I got his voice box two times and left a message then I text messaged him. I woke up Friday morning to my cell phone ringing and my caller ID displayed Ralph Cell so I answer the phone and I get to hear my brothers voice and he told me that everyone was ok the house had a little damage (roof tiles missing, front door destroyed, and wet carpet) all of that can be replaced. I'm sooooooooooooo Thankful that everyone is ok and nobody is hurt. My heart goes out to all the missing/dead and unkown whereabouts and their families. I wish I could go there to help with clean up efforts but I am not able to b/c of the girls so I'll keep saying the prayers and donate to the red cross so they can provide food and shelter to all these people.

Thanks again Jack for letting us know Marcia is ok. Please if you're able to talk to her tell her I'm so happy she is ok and we look forward to seeing her back on line when she is able. If it's not any trouble for you could you please keep us updated on her situation until she is able to get back on line with us I would appreciate it if you could as she's a part of our forum family.

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Thanks Jack for keeping us updated. Glad Marcie and family are ok.

Brenda, you must be very relieved to know that your brother survived "relatively" unscathed.

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Muz,

Yes sir I am very relieved to know that my brother survived and they were relatively unscathed. I am also relieved that they won't stay for another storm as it was a horrific experience for them and very nerve wracking for us.

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Jack,

I can only imagine the thoughts going through your mind after the phone went dead! :o

Thank you so much for letting us know that Marcia is OK. Give her hugs from me. I'm so glad she has her new swim leg!!!!! That was definitely a good investment!!!!

Karen :-)

AKA

Orlando, FL

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Hi, first I'd like to say, I am sooooo pleased to hear Marcia and her family are okay. Also that Brenda's brother/relatives have survived this horrible disaster, that is beyound belief. :( My thoughts and prayers go out to all that have been effected directly or indirectly.

I, probably like many others, have been watching none stop, while trying to absorb what has happened to a huge part of our Gulf Coast Region, Louisianna, Mississippi and Alabama. But have realized, in my case any ways, that it is to big to absorb, my mind can't begin to comprehend such horrible pictures, that have been shown before our eyes and the world's eyes. :(

For me, I'm heartbroken, disgusted and angry, all at the same time. :( To which, I'm not even sure if I have the words to discribe my feelings, as to what has/ has not been taking place, since this nightmare came out of the Gulf 6 days ago, killing and or displacing so many thousands and thousands of people. :(

Heartbroken to see such human tragedy unfold right here in this country, not that we're exempt from such things, but the lack of dignity shown to those whom have been tossed into such deplorable conditions. People's entire lives, as they've known it, being taken completely away from them, even death for many. Most of these are very poor black people, who have no means what so ever, to rebuild their lives, especially from rock bottom. I fear the long term disaster, for many, is still yet to come. True, we may not have all the answers at this time, but we all should have some questions, as to WHY the very thing that was feard the most in this Country/ New Orleans, as far as a disaster waiting to happen, was in fact allowed to happen, when it could have been prevented. :huh:

Disgusted, TOTALLY!!! It doesn't matter who agrees or disagrees with me, b/c there will be PLENTY of blame to go around. But the dispicable handling of these people from New Orleans, treated like garbage on the side of the road and other places, until they could be picked up, by bus or otherwise, is something that should definitely be condemmed throughout this entire country...... period!!! I believe, if not for the fact of Shepard Smith and other Fox News Reporters, hollering and hollering for HELP, to come in and assist these poor people, there probably, in my opinion, would have been many more deaths throughout N.O. How terribly, terribly sad, to survive through such an enormous hurricane, only to have a second disaster,(flood) wipe you out and or take your lives, b/c nobody had a plan of action in place. :( This one (flood) can only be blamed on the Wraths of Mankind, not the Wraths of Nature. :ph34r:

Angry, b/c this did NOT have to happen!!! When you have leeves to hold back water, that were only built to with stand a catagory 3 hurricane and were not rebuilt to with stand a catagory 5, something is extremely wrong!! When so many (politics) knew of this situation and yet nothing was done to take the appropriate steps, so to reassure the safty of thousands and thousands of people. How can this be so, :( that's what I wanna know? Also. why, obvisiouly, backs were turned ignoring this issue? To me, that is only a start of where the blame should ly, in my opinion!! :angry:

But most importantly right now, to me any ways, is showing our deepest graditude to ALL of those here and abroad, who have participated in the Relief Aid, Search & Rescue, Medical, Shelters, Contributions and the list goes on and on.... THANK YOU. :)

Please let me say, I am not angry with the American people, but instead, with the way so many other American people we let down. :( Lastly I would like to say, most are taught, while growing up, that our priorities should start at home, well America is our home. :(

These are only my opinions and apologize for my carrying on so, but just felt the need to share. :)

Sheila lbk

Maine USA

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Hi Marcus, why I respect your opinion, I have to disagree. Also, PLEASE do not misunderstand me here, I am NOT blaming it ALL on the politicians, just a BIG portion of it!! The 'hurricane' was an act of nature, to which we had no control. :(

Please know, that this is only my opinion here. This Country knew about the dangers that persisted there with the levees and did nothing to correct this problem to secure the safty of thousands!!! That's what has really made me bitter/angry towards those, who DID know of this issue (politicians) and perhaps just figured, that it would always take place on someone else's clock. To my knowledge, this has been on the books (sort to speak) that it could only with stand a cat -3, not a large cat - 4-5, for a long, long time. What I find disgraceful is, this Country's politians, right from the top, to the ones at the lower level, (who have control of their state), knew this was a HUGE disaster waiting to happen and unfortunately it did, at the expense of thousands. :( Of course I realize, that the ones at the lower level, can only accomplish such a huge task, with more resources from the higher level.

I agree, that certain Americans have sent jobs overseas which, to an extent, has hurt our economy, etc, but it's NOT the average person here, who has control over such matters, it's basicly big business and politicians that come to these conclusions. However, I have NO intentions of getting into those types of political issues on here. My only concern is, that many (politicians) knew the possibility of this happening, with catastrophic consequenses and nothing was done to take the appropiate steps, in my opinion, that's the bottom line!! We could go on all day long, in regards to driving big SUV's, etc, but at the moment, I find it difficult to see how this reflects on the leeves failing, to which I am really referring. Perhaps, IMO, money being dispersed elsewhere and pushing such important matters aside, is what failed those people of New Orleans! But I do feel our priority right now, is to try and help those people who have lost everything, to which, I can't begin to imagine. :( I'd like to ask, if we all could say a pray, regardless of who's to blame, for the future of these people, b/c in my heart, that's what really matters.

I don't have any intentions of making this a political issue here on this forum, I just wanted to share my thoughts and thank you for allowing me to do so. :)

Let there be NO doubt, I love and respect America, (my homeland) and would defend her to the end. I don't always agree with some of the politics, but I at least have the 'Freedom' to speakout and disagree. :)

Sheila lbk

Maine USA

Keep Smiling :)

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Hello Everyone,

I have been reading your posts here on the forum today directed towards Marcia, I also wish her and her family the very best. She lives in Biloxi, Mississippi which took the brunt of the storm, can anyone imagine if Katrina would have hit New Orleans directly.

Most of you on this board do not have to face the fact that you also, might have to face the ravages of a Hurricane such as Katrina, unfortunately, I do. I also live on the Gulf Coast, only in South Texas, not Mississippi. But we all have the choice to live where we do, I have chosen to live here and I will have to suffer the consequences of that choice. I would rather live here on the Gulf Coast and face an occasional Hurricane, that to live where the constant threat of a Tornado, Earthquake, or perhaps a Landslide or Forest Fire. At least, when a Hurricane is brewing, we have plenty of time to prepare and / or to leave. I have not fled a Hurricane yet, but have managed to stay high and dry!

Perhaps it is because I choose to live somewhere that is "above" sea level!

New Orleans is forced to remember that it is trapped in a cage of its own construction.

New Orleans' relationship with its environment may make it the nation's most improbable metropolis. It is flood prone. It is cursed with a fertile disease environment. It is located along a well-worn pathway that tropical storms travel from the Atlantic to the nation's interior. From this perspective, New Orleans has earned all the scorn being heaped upon it—the city is a misguided urban project, a fool's errand, a disaster waiting to happen.

Many other residents of New Orleans throughout history, usually poor residents, died. They were carried away in floods. They were battered by catastrophic storms. They were snuffed out by yellow fever epidemics, like the great scourge of 1853 that killed nearly 10,000 people in the city. Over time, New Orleans developed a divided relationship with the environment. Nature, as embodied by the Mississippi, promised a bright future. But it also brought water, wind, and pathogens, elements of a fickle environment that in the past as now turned cruelly chaotic.

From the first, New Orleans turned to technology to impose order on its enviroment. Since engineers began to figure out how to drain the city adequately in the mid-19th century, they have struggled mightily to do so. Over time they built a network of enormous pumps (several of which have failed in the face of Katrina) and hundreds of miles of canals. Their feats, however incomplete, have allowed the city to expand off the relatively high ground near the Mississippi and to spread out into what used to be a huge cypress swamp along the shore of Lake Pontchartrain.

New Orleans' early settlers also built artificial levees. At first they were little more than crude efforts to augment the natural riverbanks. But for more than two centuries, engineers steadily ramped up their project, and today the levees have grown so high that they loom over the city below. New Orleans has literally walled itself off from the Mississippi. This is all part of the effort to realize the promise of the city's situation while keeping at bay the forces that buffet its site. Of course, in its present condition, the city faces two truths: First, even today the levees are not impregnable. And second, the higher the defenses are built, the more difficult it becomes to remove water from New Orleans once it finds a way inside.

But to say that "this Country knew about the dangers that persisted there with the levees and did nothing to correct this problem to secure the safety of thousands," may be a bit harsh!

Sometimes, people need to decide if they are willing to accept the dangers of living in an area of natural disasters.

I can only hope that I have not offended anyone with my opinions, I just felt like you should hear from someone who also faces the same dilemma.

Ted

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Marcia

Where are you. Has your linen dried yet. Jack is Marcia thinking of buying a permanent waterproof jacket. We miss her and are wondering how she is doing. Most of us cannot imaging losing everything to become semi-nomadic.

Come back and talk if just to put our minds at rest. Jack was real nice but hey the not the real thing.

Rachel :rolleyes:

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Hello everyone,

I got internet service about an hr ago and couldn't wait to say hello to everyone. Thank you all for your prayers and concerns. Thankfully, we are fine. We lost the fence, most of the roof and got a couple of inches of water, which ruined the wood floors and the carpet. Our damage is nothing compared to a lot of others. Our whole Gulf Coast area is truly devasted. We exist on tourism and dockside gambling. All 12 casinos are gone so 17,000 people lost jobs just to that. It's overwhelming.

We were blessed to acquire a generator so we ran fans at night for sleeping and even though the pool water was gross, it was great for flushing toilets!! I think being without water is the hardest. We actually got power back the following Saturday night but the water took a while longer. We still can't drink it. I was amazed that our power was restored so quickly. 6 days doesn't seem like a long time to go without but when it's hot, I mean really hot, and you feel like your sweating to death, it seems like an eternity.

My daughter had 3 ft of water in her house so it will be a long time before they're back in it. I must tell you, that neither she nor I live in an area that floods.

Anyway, all this has kept me busy and I have found myself doing things I wouldn't have thought I would be doing -I mean, physical things. In that respect, it's been good for me.

Even when it was really really hot and I was washing clothes in a beer tub with clothesline strung everywhere (remember Sanford & Son?) and I felt like whining, I had to stop and remember how fortunate we were because so many have absolutely nothing.

I would also like to say that it's wonderful having all of you to come back to and I hope I never take power and water for granted again. I can't wait to start catching up on the all the postings.

Brenda, I'm glad your brother is ok. I know you were so worried. Now that Rita has come thru I'm wondering about Biguncleted.

I'm soooo happy to be back. Thank you for being my family.

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Marcia!!!!!!!!!!.....Woohoooo......so good to hear from you.

Glad you're ok :D Was thinking about you constantly when we first saw the devestation.

Hope you keep well......keep us all posted

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Welcome back Marcia. You sound remarkably cheerfull considering what's happened to you. Let's hope that you can get back to some kind of normality fairly quickly.

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Glad you're back Marcia. What a thing to go through. Luckily we have legs that don't rust....or do they?? :huh:

Anyway, nice to hear you upbeat. Don't think I would be handling it quite a well as you are. Takes a special person to smile at Mother Nature after she's thrown a major tantrum.

God bless,

Ally

:)

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Marcia,

I can't tell you how good it is to see you back! You have been terribly missed...WELCOME BACK!

I can't imagine what it's like to live through that, especially without water.

Hell, the local council cut our water supply the other day, for a total of 7 hours or so WITHOUT NOTICE, and I was going crazy!!

You are indeed very lucky to have suffered such little damage. Watching the news was unbelievable. Just didn't seem like it was happening in America.

Anyway, very glad to see you back. You are well and truly a SURVIVOR!! ;) :D

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Marcia.........Welcome Back!

I know that everyone there in Biloxi have taken an incredible hit from katrina. We are so glad to hear that you have survived your ordeal.

We were ready for Rita, but she never showed up here in Alice. We had the generator all hooked up and ready to go. We will keep it ready, for we still have over two months of Hurricane Season left.

I am so sorry to hear about your, and your daughters homes. We have been through many hurricanes here in South Texas, but so far, we have never suffered any major damages.

I know what you mean by Hot, Really Hot. It is going to be 104 degrees here today, and 106 tomorrow. I can just imagine having to clean up a mess like that in this kind of heat and humidity.

Heep us informed on your progress, you will be in our prayers!

Ted

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I'm glad I sound cheerful. I was depressed for the longest and I still have those days. After I saw the damage that had occurred, I think I cried for the next 3 days. Because while it was going on, I never had any idea that it was THAT bad. Even after we saw the neighbor's weimeraner (sp?), big gray dog, blow in the pool. Really, he had somehow gotten out ard since our fence was flat on the ground so I guess he decided to pay us a visit. We saw him standing by the pool and BAM he blew in.

When I'm at home trying to get my house in order, things seem somewhat normal and I'm ok. When I get in the car to go somewhere, there it is, the damage and debris is everywhere and it is overwhelming. I'm really sad for others. We have a roof over our heads, a heavily damaged one, but a roof nonetheless. And after pulling up all the wet carpet from the bedrooms, I've sort of grown to like the coolness of cement floors! Sometimes you just have to find the humor in it. Now if I were living in an army tent in the K Mart parking lot, I probably wouldn't be this cheerful! And, trust me, there are people doing just that. I admire them with all my heart because I'm not sure I could do it. Some folks have pitched tents on their slab, which is all that's left of their house.

Glad you dodged, Rita, Ted. I don't know what's going on with the weather. I'm beginning to wonder if God's trying to tell us something!

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Welcome back Marcia, how terribly sad :( to hear of the property damage you folks when through, but I am soooooooooooo pleased to hear, that you and your family are all okay. ;) As everyone has said, those things can be replaced, but not a life. I watched it on tv, like most everyone, and it is truly uncomprehensable to see such devastation, I can't even begin to imagine being there and seeing it!! Thank goodness Rita went down to a cat 3 before landfall or parts of TX, LS, would be totally submerged in water, it was still bad, but at least not as devastating and last I heard no lives lost in Rita, which is a blessing. Anyways, it's so good to have you back and stay well my friend. :D

Sheila lbk

Maine USA

Keep Smiling :)

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Welcome back, Marcia!!!

You've been in my thoughts and prayers, and it so good to hear from you!

XO

Karen :-)

AKA

Orlando, FL

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Hi Marcia

Glad you are back and that you are ok.

I really can't imagine what you folks go through in the Hurricane season, we moan about the weather where I live, but never really go through the extremes of weather that you do.

Take care.

Ann

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Dear Marcia,

Welcome back. I have to tell you that I was worried about you, but that I knew you were a survivor.

(((((BIG HUG)))))

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