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hi there,I'd really like to know and this is a general enquiry as I am unsure to what the nhs offers.Does the nhs offer just one type of leg? What can you do with the leg they give you? Can you montain climb/run etc or would you have to pay private for a higher qualityl leg?

Thank-you for any responses xx

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I think that normally you can get 2 legs, once for normal walking and one for sports/swimming.

They will give you what suits your needs best and fits in there budget, but i think the budget changes depending what center you go to. im sure soon some one will be along soon to tell you more

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It varies from centre to centre and even then it changes at the centre regularly. Generally as I understand it (from my centre) it's one standard leg and if you can make a case for it a second 'specialist' leg but you have to persuade them you would get the use from it. It used to be two legs plus a water leg but now I have to choose between being able to go on the beach with my children or being able to exercise and keep myself mobile!

Whatever they offer if you are not happy argue your case for why you need something better - somethimes they can be persuaded to upgrade to what you want/need.

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It varies from centre to centre and even then it changes at the centre regularly. Generally as I understand it (from my centre) it's one standard leg and if you can make a case for it a second 'specialist' leg but you have to persuade them you would get the use from it. It used to be two legs plus a water leg but now I have to choose between being able to go on the beach with my children or being able to exercise and keep myself mobile!

Whatever they offer if you are not happy argue your case for why you need something better - somethimes they can be persuaded to upgrade to what you want/need.

THank-you that was helpful advice :) Can you tell me whether you can do alot with them.Like if I wanted to go for a 10mile hill walk is it actually possible with an nhs leg? Or would I need a Specialist leg which Id have to go provate for?I.m guessing privately it would be higher quality...

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It varies from centre to centre and even then it changes at the centre regularly. Generally as I understand it (from my centre) it's one standard leg and if you can make a case for it a second 'specialist' leg but you have to persuade them you would get the use from it. It used to be two legs plus a water leg but now I have to choose between being able to go on the beach with my children or being able to exercise and keep myself mobile!

Whatever they offer if you are not happy argue your case for why you need something better - somethimes they can be persuaded to upgrade to what you want/need.

THank-you that was helpful advice :) Can you tell me whether you can do alot with them.Like if I wanted to go for a 10mile hill walk is it actually possible with an nhs leg? Or would I need a Specialist leg which Id have to go provate for?I.m guessing privately it would be higher quality...

When you say 'nhs' leg, you'll find often the actual hardware under the skin of a privately sourced leg is the same as what you're describing as an 'nhs' leg. Unless you distincltly ask for something you know to be expensive, and you pay for it, then there's often no reason for a private centre to offer anything particularly expensive.

Often what you pay for at a private centre will be the undivided specialist attention from the prosthetist who you are paying for. The nhs supply a prosthetist, but you can't make the same cdemands upon his/her time. I'd say that's the main difference, apart from the fact you could get a better comesis (skin, cover) if you're willing to pay for it.

As for the question 'can you do alot with them', I'd say if the socket fits well, yes, no reason why not. As has been said already, if you demonstrate you need something out of the ordinary, you may well get that too. I would always exhaust the possibilities on the nhs before shelling out money yourself.

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From my own experiences, I have to prove a need and then to be fair they always found a way of getting what was needed.

This year I have managed to stumble around the Isle of Skye and the North Cornish coast on my NHS legs.

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From my own experiences, I have to prove a need and then to be fair they always found a way of getting what was needed.

This year I have managed to stumble around the Isle of Skye and the North Cornish coast on my NHS legs.

THat makes me smile :) Could you walk far? I am from the Isle of Skye andit is an island of pure beauty :)x

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I'm a bit resticted because of old scars on my legs but I managed to do everything I set out to do. I love Skye, do you still live there?

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I'm a bit resticted because of old scars on my legs but I managed to do everything I set out to do. I love Skye, do you still live there?

Before I had my accident I used to walk miles on hilly terrain.It upsets me to think I might not do this again which is why Im wondering if its possible with a false nhs leg?Im talking hardcore walking here lol

No,Im actually half scottish,my mum is from the Isle of Skye but I live in England. I used to go up every Summer and itsmy fream to get walking againa nd go back

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Hi Skylinz

Can't say I have gone mountain climbing, but as a bilateral b/k I have walked over some pretty hilly areas, with NHS legs. In recent years my walking has been restricted but in the past I would walk quite a few miles without problems. I don't know about specialist legs, but for me it all goes on the comfort of the socket and everything else follows through, its a bit like everything, get your confidence walking with a comfortable limb, build it up the walking slowly and it will come with practice.

Unless I had plenty of money I don't think I would be paying out for a private specialist leg first off, you'll stump will go through many changes in the early months, I would get myself walking first and see what the NHS can offer.

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Hi there, NHS legs are what i use, going private is a costly way, cool if ya plenty of coin fill ya boots, as for legs from NHS they are good belive it not, i suppose it depends on your self to, if you have i cannot be arsed attitude i dont think you'll get anything good, they wil not spend money on you if your not going to use it to its potential, i started off with a very basic leg. i used for a few months untill my stump healed, then moved onto the one i use now all the time, every day n all they, the i got from the NHS is elite made by endolite, i can climb, run, stairs ladders, i can pretty much what i,ve always done, not mastered driving a manual cat thou but can a auto with a mod to the pedals easily can, the foot is mabe of carbon fibre composite, inside the false looking foot is two carbon fibre springs one of them splits into which acts as your toes n also give a lot of return when walking, the other spring goes to your heal which cushions your leg each time you stamp down, trust me its good, i hammer the hell of mine i,ve only had it 4 months, i dont limp no more its good on my stump due to the gel liner i have. i,m well happy with....a good attitude does help so much which i'm sure you have... if you goto www,endolite.co.uk youll see the limbs that NHS use as this is there supplier.... good luck n have fun...

cheers ttgib/scott.

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Hi there, NHS legs are what i use, going private is a costly way, cool if ya plenty of coin fill ya boots, as for legs from NHS they are good belive it not, i suppose it depends on your self to, if you have i cannot be arsed attitude i dont think you'll get anything good, they wil not spend money on you if your not going to use it to its potential, i started off with a very basic leg. i used for a few months untill my stump healed, then moved onto the one i use now all the time, every day n all they, the i got from the NHS is elite made by endolite, i can climb, run, stairs ladders, i can pretty much what i,ve always done, not mastered driving a manual cat thou but can a auto with a mod to the pedals easily can, the foot is mabe of carbon fibre composite, inside the false looking foot is two carbon fibre springs one of them splits into which acts as your toes n also give a lot of return when walking, the other spring goes to your heal which cushions your leg each time you stamp down, trust me its good, i hammer the hell of mine i,ve only had it 4 months, i dont limp no more its good on my stump due to the gel liner i have. i,m well happy with....a good attitude does help so much which i'm sure you have... if you goto www,endolite.co.uk youll see the limbs that NHS use as this is there supplier.... good luck n have fun...

cheers ttgib/scott.

Thank-you that was really helpful. I dont have the money to splash out but if I was told I couldnt be as active as I was before my asccident and a private leg would get me this I would get the money from somewhere as being able to walk is the most important thing in my life right now. I do have a v determined attitude and I would definetely use a leg for active purposes if they were to give me it! I was an incredibly active person so it is reassurring top know I could eventually be that again. Thankyou :) x

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Bless ya, you will fine n dandy, once you get on your legs again you will look back n say it was'nt so bad, straight up is the key... you say you have a determined attitude well i'll tell you that is three quarters of the battle, the rest is easy, and very rewarding, life not over its just beginning, i find myself challenging me to alsorts, i do so much more since i lost my leg.... keep focused...

cheers ttgib/scott ;)

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There's absolutely no reason why you shouldn't be almost, if not, as fit as you were before your amp. If you're determined to go hill walking/mountain climbing again then, if your leg is fitting OK, you should be able to; all the fancy hardwear just makes life easier, but really it's all down to socket fit, alignment and your determination. However, you do need to remember to build up to it slowly.

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Search for the member on here called 'mick', he has an AK nhs leg and walks for miles and miles over the moors and through the mountains.... there are plenty of posts and links to photos... he's pretty impressive.... on an nhs leg...

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Thank-you everyone for your helpful responses and advice.It gives me hope that I could walk again if I dont get the use of my right leg back. I am really impressed with people like Mick who seem to be enjoying long hilly walks the way I used to do. And Im suprised that nhs legs are as good as I seem to be seeing! I dont know alot baout them you see....so am I right in thinking that if you want to do sports againa and enjoy an active life,the nhs will give you a leg to meet that?

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Thank-you everyone for your helpful responses and advice.It gives me hope that I could walk again if I dont get the use of my right leg back. I am really impressed with people like Mick who seem to be enjoying long hilly walks the way I used to do. And Im suprised that nhs legs are as good as I seem to be seeing! I dont know alot baout them you see....so am I right in thinking that if you want to do sports againa and enjoy an active life,the nhs will give you a leg to meet that?

xx

Yes...

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Hello Skyelinz,

I don’t have a great deal to add & as per usual I’m late replying, if I could just point out one thing, it doesn’t matter what make ,model or cost of the leg. If the socket doesn’t fit you will not walk far, in my humble opinion the socket fit IS EVERY THING.

Right now that’s got that out of the way , Next can you hike up mountains ect on a bog standard NHS limb ???.

Yes you can, I know because I started on a bog standard NHS knee and foot, and over time I got “upgraded” once I had demonstrated that I would and could use a better one.

But even in the early days there was nothing that would keep me off the hills.

I’m not saying it was easy, but if I can do it as an AK & (I hit the big 50 next year) there is NO reason why you can’t.

So don’t let anyone tell you that you won’t be bagging peaks again trust me you can if you want to. It’s all in the mind.

And lastly if you love the great outdoors now just wait till you get back out there you will really appreciate it now.

Any more???? Please feel free to ask, but to be honest with you I don’t really know much about the in & outs of the industry, I just get on with it.

And one more thing I have just counted up my hikes from January I have done 38 hikes over 10 miles so far this year, I not writing this down as a boast or anything I just want you to realise loosing a leg doesn’t have to stop you from doing what you love.

Take care and start planning your trips ………………………..Mick

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Hello Skyelinz,

I don’t have a great deal to add & as per usual I’m late replying, if I could just point out one thing, it doesn’t matter what make ,model or cost of the leg. If the socket doesn’t fit you will not walk far, in my humble opinion the socket fit IS EVERY THING.

Right now that’s got that out of the way , Next can you hike up mountains ect on a bog standard NHS limb ???.

Yes you can, I know because I started on a bog standard NHS knee and foot, and over time I got “upgraded” once I had demonstrated that I would and could use a better one.

But even in the early days there was nothing that would keep me off the hills.

I’m not saying it was easy, but if I can do it as an AK & (I hit the big 50 next year) there is NO reason why you can’t.

So don’t let anyone tell you that you won’t be bagging peaks again trust me you can if you want to. It’s all in the mind.

And lastly if you love the great outdoors now just wait till you get back out there you will really appreciate it now.

Any more???? Please feel free to ask, but to be honest with you I don’t really know much about the in & outs of the industry, I just get on with it.

And one more thing I have just counted up my hikes from January I have done 38 hikes over 10 miles so far this year, I not writing this down as a boast or anything I just want you to realise loosing a leg doesn’t have to stop you from doing what you love.

Take care and start planning your trips ………………………..Mick

Thank-you very much Mick,you are a true inspiration to me and I never imagined you could do so much with a false leg so Im glad and relieved that you can!I'm only 20 and Ive been through so much and determination to walk would seem easy compared to what im going through now, I dont know whether il need an amputation but if I do its reassuring to know I could climb my mountain again. Thankyou x

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totally support mike.

I have 2 NHS legs do everything I used to do pre-accident: cycle, hilke, fly swim, just takes longer.

Fit is everything.

am blessed with a good prosthetist

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Hi Skylinz, I do some serious walking but not on a NHS leg, I have seen the mountaineers legs in a museum in New Zealand. they were bespoke made by the Britton motor cycle factory.

Still here is a story I wrote on a jaunt I unter took, to lighten the mood :tongue:

My Battle with Hastings!

My wife is an osteopath and as part of her CPD (continual professional development) she has to attend courses each year. Sometimes these are in remote places that give me an opportunity to accompany her for a restful break.

A year or so ago a trip to Hastings on the south coast was arranged, I had not visited this part of Sussex for many years and was happy to join her on the 3-day trip. We stayed at a remote farm in between Lewes and Eastbourne.

The weather was cold and snow was on the ground, the Saturday I had a brisk walk along Eastbourne seafront and then spent the afternoon in the warm watching Rugby on the TV.

On the Sunday I dropped my wife at the venue for her conference and thought I would explore the coast and perhaps find a warm pub for some lunch, my wife’s lectures finished at 4.00pm.

As I drove alone the coast I began to see signs for Hastings and Battle, I opted for Hastings, which was a bit disappointing, it was a cold and dreary and Hastings didn’t have much to offer on a Sunday morning. I saw the signs for Battle Monastery. It sounded interesting and I have always had an interest in the Norman Conquest so I set off to find the car park.

I walked up the town in search of a pub, settled for the 1066 and ordered some lunch, after my meal I took a slow walk back towards the Monastery. The wind had now got up and the temperature had now dropped to around freezing, there were a few snow flurries in the air. I walked back to the car and debated putting on my water proof and my woolly hat, but thought better of it, collected my walking stick and left with my fleece on, I would only view the museum and waste an hour, the time was around 1.30ish.

I entered the Monastery and looked in the small museum, which did not take long, but got me interested in the invasion that William brought with him, and how Harold had done his best to stop us speaking French!

With my interest up I noticed a display offering listening walking talkies that gave commentary of the battle, and information on the characters involved.

I spoke with the fellow hiring these out, he said the program commentary is a guide around the Monastery and also a tour of the Battlefield, noticing I had one leg, (I was wearing my peg-leg) commented that I should stick to the monastic tour and just listen to the battlefield jaunt. The whole tour would take 40 minutes but if I stayed at the Monastery probably half of that time!

It was now 2pm as I took control of my walking talking guide to medieval warfare.

The walking talking device had onboard 13 (unlucky for some!) number press pads. These where linked to a number board situated along the walk, there would be a plinth with a diagram of a situation in the story, you press the walking talkie at the appropriate liaison, matching with the number on the machine and at the plinth point. I had a arrived at number one I pressed the button; actors laid the scene for one of the most historical dates in English history and a date that I wouldn’t forget for a long time either.

Well I’m really getting into the play, the actors are portraying the scene Harold this, William that, soon I’ve passed point 2 and on my way to point number 3.

Then I get to a fork in the tour, the sign reads to the battlefield down a section of steps or straight on to complete the monastic tour. Sections 4 to 9 are on the battlefield!

Now its well after 2 and its starting to snow, but the actors have done such a great job in building the scenario of the pre battle excitement I will not enjoy missing out on the realism of the actual event.

On to the battlefield I descend, this can’t take long I walk down the mulch filled path, the snow is coming down harder now and the wind is getting up, as I leave the protection of the Monastery walls.

I wish I put my hat on and my waterproof but still if I keep moving I shall remain warm.

At point 3 I press the button on the walking talkie, the battle is under way, William is pushing on towards Harold, the Housecarls (Harold’s body guard) protecting their leader. I had now transcended the slope and was approaching point 4 and then on to five which was at the bottom of the hill, pressing the button I got to hear the roar of battle and the sound of arrows in the air, Harold was winning unfortunately I was not……………………..

Once I left the comparative firmness of the mulch, I had started to slip and slide and slowly sinking into the sod, which was the historic battlefield.

William (The b.....d) as he was to be known was also having issues with the terrain but the battle was fought in October, his problem was a few thousand cheesed off Saxons mine was the temperature which with the wind chill was dropping dramatically, the snow which was falling fast and my footing which was fast disappearing into the soggy bog.

I soldiered on towards point 6, slipping and sliding it was taking me longer and longer to make any headway I was getting into dire straits, part of me wanted to return to the safety of the mulch slopes but part of me wanted to get to point 6 and listen to the next episode in the great battle!

I got to point 6 listening to William who had been un- horsed rallying his knights for one big push back up the hill.

Off I set towards point 7, I was starting to get really cold there was not another soul on the walk, and obviously others had more sense. My situation was starting to dawn on me. The further I pushed onto the battlefield the worse the terrain became. Know body knew I was here; the peg leg was gathering mud like a rugby players boot! I was soaking wet and starting to shiver. I had my mobile phone and considered ringing the Police for assistance. Oh hello I’m stuck in the mud with one leg in the middle of the Battle of Hastings battle field would you send a helicopter!! It wouldn’t work they would tell me bugger off and bother someone else.

It is now 3pm, here’s the scenario, I cannot go back the snow and terrain would make that impossible, I have just arrived at point 7 a patch of concrete surrounded by a sea of mud and slush. My body temperature is falling fast and I want to sit down and have a cup of tea, my leg is beginning to hurt and I now have ½ a hundred weight of mud attached to my peg leg!

I must not listen to the walking talkie again or I will end up like Harold did.

Off I set more like Captain Scott than William the Conqueror, I am wearing leather trousers that keep the cold out but they are now covered in mud I slip and slide inching up the slope of the fortified Monastery, I debate crawling and clawing my way to safety things have just got serious!! I jam the bloody walking talkie in the back of my trousers and concentrate on survival, I will find out more on Harold and William once I’m safe, but I am still intrigued how the battle is going, it’s a little like reading Julius Caesar and being surprised when he gets killed!

Slowly yard by yard I emerge from the bog, step by step I get to firmer more solid ground, past points 8 and 9 onwards and upwards I trudge, at last the Mulch reappears like a lit stairway to heaven, I’m saved, I arrive at point 10 and reclaim the walking talkie to find out how Harry is getting on, he’s dead and so are most of his Housecarls the battle is lost, William had come up that hill a lot faster than I had, and stormed the bastion. While listening to this I look up to the battlements of the monastery and notice dozens of cold faces pointing and shaking there heads in my direction, it’s suddenly dawns on me that my whole sorry adventure has been viewed by the amazed normal visitors to the historic monastic site, they have watch as the whole sorry tale unfolded enjoying the disabled madman’s plight.

I decided to walk on as though nothing was amiss, brassing it out they call it in the army. When I emerged onto the monastery-cobbled walkway I realise how filthy I am, I am caked in mud, the mud on my peg leg now is the shape of a flying saucer. The people’s faces are totally amazed their mouths open like they have seen the ghost of dear old Harold.

I slip around the corner knocking mud off on the stonewalls I’m in a shocking state.

I still have to return to the gift shop and hand in the cause of my position the dreaded walking talkie. I slipped into the warm shop my body lapping up the warmth my cheeks redden with the heat and embarrassment. Not wanting to confront the man who had told me not to go on the battlefield, I pretend to look at the cheap nasty images on sale, to prove where Harold got wiped out, Mugs, cups, ties etc.

Slowly limped towards the walking talkie drop off point leaving a trail of authentic Battle of Hastings mud. The look on the curators face was a picture I tried to leave his device without drawing attention to myself, but as steam was starting to rise from my clothing as I slowly dried out, there was no chance in leaving un-noticed. He said nothing just looked me up and down with pity, gawping at the state of this humbled visitor.

I fled to the car park probably as many of Harold’s House Carls had done 1000 years previous.

On reaching the car I took stock of what a retched state I was in. I tried vainly to wipe the battlefield from my person, it was useless I was smothered in clay, I had to get warm as the sleet streamed down soaking my clothing even more. I sat in the car waiting for the engine to warm up feeling pretty stupid, the time was getting on fast towards 4.00pm when I was due to pick up my wife, what was she going to say with me in this state, as I drove back towards Eastbourne I saw a car jet wash, perfect.

I pulled up feed the machine with sufficient funds filled a bucket with hot soapy water, then proceeded to wash my self down, I was already soaked so I couldn’t get any wetter, again I was the source of amusement for passers by, but by this stage I was past caring, my male ego in tatters.

Luckily my wife was late leaving her lecture and I had 10 minutes to gather myself for another onslaught, of what on earth have you been doing…..

Put it this way, if I visit one of our historic memorials again, I shall take a book and find the coffee shop with a comfy chair, that’s one in the eye for English Heritage!

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