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One-armed presenter is scaring children, parents tell BBC By Liz Thomas

Last updated at 4:05 PM on 23rd February 2009

A disabled CBeebies presenter has been the victim of a disturbing campaign after parents complained that she was scaring toddlers.

They claimed that host Cerrie Burnell - who was born with one arm - is not suitable to appear on the digital children's channel.

Miss Burnell and co-presenter Alex Winters took over the popular Do and Discover slot and The Bedtime Hour programme last month.

Controversial: Cerrie Burnell was born with one arm

But the decision to hire her has prompted a flurry of complaints to the BBC and on parenting message boards, with some of the posts on the CBeebies website becoming so vicious that they had to be removed.

Incredibly, one father said he wanted to ban his daughter from watching the channel because he feared it would give her nightmares.

Others claimed that they were forced to discuss difficult issues with their young children before they were ready.

One blogger wrote: 'Is it just me, or does anyone else think the new woman presenter on CBeebies may scare the kids because of her disability?

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This says how much of the world turns their head on people with limb differences, and how much that they need to be educated. The kids don't have the problem. It's closed minded and biased adults that create the probles with childrens perceptions. This holds true with many other things in life as well.

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Yes am with you on this Johnny. This morning I tuned in to part of a discussion programme where people were phoning in about this. I was horrified at some of the comments some people were making about this girl and how they thought she either shouldn't be on TV or should be wearing a prosthetic arm, and myself can't believe people still think like this in this day and age, and also that they are bringing up their children to also think in this way. I really think it says quite a lot about some of the parents who think its difficult to discuss it with their children, maybe they need to do a bit more talking with their children full stop. Like many others on this forum who have children and grandchildren, I had no problems with my children, who I told from a very early age 'why I didn't have legs', children are inquisitive and do ask questions, they usually need just a simple answer and they are happy.

Like you say shows just how much people need to be educated, I think this young lady is actually an excellent role model to children growing up in the world today and shame on some of these parents who are complaining.

Ann

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For Immediate Release

Contact

Rick Bowers, Communications Coordinator

Amputee Coalition of America

888/267-5669 ext. 8108

865/684-7438

press@amputee-coalition.org

Amputee Coalition of America Decries Furor

Over TV Host With Congenital Limb Absence

February 23, 2009, Knoxville, TN – The Amputee Coalition of America is extremely disappointed in numerous viewers’ negative reactions to Cerrie Burnell, the new co-host of a popular BBC children’s television program. According to a report on the British news site, MailOnline, parents have complained that Ms. Burnell scares toddlers solely because she was born without the lower portion of her right arm. According to the report, some of the posts on the CBeebies Channel’s Web site were “becoming so vicious that they had to be removed.”

To say that such remarks are outrageous is insufficient. Such outdated attitudes are demeaning and hurtful to people with disabilities and must not be tolerated. The Amputee Coalition extends its support to Ms. Burnell.

Approximately 1.7 million people in the United States are living with limb loss. In addition, approximately 185,000 people in the U.S. have an upper- or lower-limb amputation each year. Do the critics of Ms. Burnell believe that everyone with limb loss or a congenital limb absence – including children who have lost their limbs to lawn mower accidents, people who have had amputations due to cancer, and those who have returned from Iraq and Afghanistan missing limbs – are too scary to be seen in public? Would these complaining parents ask their nation’s wounded warriors to hide from public view?

Fortunately, other viewers and disability-rights groups within the United Kingdom are staunchly defending Ms. Burnell. Rather than yielding to intimidating attacks by an intolerant few, the BBC should heed these wiser voices and retain Ms. Burnell’s services.

Such stigmatization of people with limb differences is why the Amputee Coalition developed its Limb Loss Education & Awareness Program for children from preschool through sixth grade. This curriculum is based on the belief that children can learn acceptance of people with differences even at an early age.

It is only through education and awareness that ignorance and intolerance related to people with disabilities can be overcome. The Amputee Coalition of America remains ever dedicated to this goal.

Sincerely,

Kendra Calhoun

President and CEO

Amputee Coalition of America

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I haven't seen her present, but she looks a sweet girl and she looks as though young children would find her approachable. I honestly can't see what their problem is ... well, actually, I think I know what their problem is & it's 'ignorant adult syndrome'. :angry:

As for wearing a limb! Well, I just despair! :ohmy: Have the people who are complaining because 'they don't think it looks nice' ever tried holding one of those upper limb prostheses in their hand for long periods of time? They can be quite heavy & they're much heavier if you don't have all the requisite muscles. If you can do something easier without wearing a dead weight (i.e. a prosthesis), then you ditch the dead weight, don't you? Anyway, her arm looks absolutely fine to me. :smile:

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http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=6946286

TV Host With One Arm Ignites Protests

Parents Defend BBC TV Host Against Claims That She Frightens Children

By SUSAN DONALDSON JAMES

Feb. 24, 2009 —

When a handful of parents complained that the host of a British children's television show was scaring young viewers, comments exploded on Internet message boards -- some so vicious they had to be removed.

Cerrie Burnell, 29, who was born with one arm, sparked heated message board debate after she was hired a month ago to appear on CBeebies, the BBC's digital children's channel.

One woman who called herself "Chiara's mum," wrote, "My daughter won't watch with the new presenters. She is only 2 and notices the lady's arm has gone. She thinks she is hurt every day."

One father said the show would give his daughter nightmares, and others said their children were too young to cope or even that the BBC was too aggressive in its policy to hire "minorities" to meet quotas.

Since the initial comments appeared, advocacy groups and parents of those born with "limb deficiencies" have seized on the story as a teachable moment.

"I find comments from complaining parents very hurtful," said Julie Detheridge of Coventry, whose 9-year-old son who was born without a right hand.

"Should my son be kept locked away in case he frightens someone?" she asked. "He is no less of a person just because he was born with part of his hand missing."

And today, commenters on the CBeebies Web site were overwhelmingly dismissive of what they called a "handful" of parents who were uncomfortable with Burnell's disability, likening their reaction to racial prejudice.

Groups Decry 'Bullying Tactics' Against CBeebies Host

Burnell, who has a 4-month-old daughter and works as a teaching assistant at a special needs school, called the host's critics "small-minded."

"It can only be a good thing that parents are using me as a chance to talk disability with their children," Burnell told ABCNews.com. "It just goes to show how important it is to have positive disabled role models on CBeebies and television in general."

She acknowledged in an interview with BBC Breakfast Television today that a missing limb can be initially scary.

"Kids come up to me on the street every day, and go," she said, gasping, "what is that? And I would say they were frightened, but I'd say certainly, they were inquisitive, they want to know why it's different, and I think that's very honest, and it's real, it's the truth."

She said all children want is an explanation. "They just want to know why we're different, what [has] happened, and two minutes later, they would have moved on."

Advocacy groups in Britain chimed in to support Burnell and chastised the British tabloids for using headlines like "One-armed TV presenter scares the children," rather than emphasizing what they call discriminatory attitudes and "bullying tactics."

"Having an upper limb deficiency does not make someone disabled, it just makes them a person with a difference, and as such they should have open to them all the same career prospects as anyone else," said Sue Stokes, the national coordinator for the British organization Reach: The Association for Children With Hand or Arm Deficiency.

"We are completely behind Cerrie and hope she can stay strong and not let these few narrow-minded bullies get to her," said Stokes, who has a 22-year-old daughter with a missing hand.

The BBC is also standing behind Burnell. "It's a big task to entertain millions of children every day," said Michael Carrington, controller of CBeebies. "Cerrie is warm and natural and we think that in time all mums and dads and children will love her as much as we do."

Limb Deficiency Groups React

Outrage over the initial parent reaction reverberated across the Atlantic, especially among child psychiatrists and parents of children with limb deficiencies.

"Parents ought to be able to talk about this with their kids," said Dr. Steven Schlozman, assistant professor of psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. "It's the stuff that doesn't get addressed in this realm that more likely lead to nightmares."

"Kids are amazingly tolerant as long as you acknowledge the elephant in room," he told ABCNews.com. "Yes, [burnell's] got one arm, but look what she can do. At least she's creating a dialogue.

Many people who are missing limbs choose not to wear prostheses, "as a matter of pride," said Schlozman, who has treated children with limb deficiencies.

"Put yourself in the mind of a kid," said Schlozman. "'My goodness,' they think, 'If my folks can't stomach a healthy and well-adjusted one-armed mother, then what will they think of the nasty feelings I have for my older sister when she gets the last cookie?' and so on."

Most Limb Deficiencies Have Unknown Causes

Congenital limb deficiencies like Burnell's occur in about one out of every 1,000 births. The cause is unknown in about 32 percent of those cases, but genetic mutations, chromosomal abnormalities and vascular disruptions can cause an arm or leg to not develop, according to the Journal of American Academy of Pediatrics.

Approximately 1.7 million people in the United States are living with limb loss, and another 185,000 have a limb amputation each year, according to the Amputee Coalition of America.

"Such outdated attitudes are demeaning and hurtful to people with disabilities and must not be tolerated," the coalition today said in a prepared release issued in response to the BBC controversy.

"Do the critics of Ms. Burnell believe that everyone with limb loss or a congenital limb absence -- including children who have lost their limbs to lawn mower accidents, people who have had amputations due to cancer and those who have returned from Iraq and Afghanistan missing limbs -- are too scary to be seen in public? Would these complaining parents ask their nation's wounded warriors to hide from public view?"

In the United States, several children's shows, including "Maya and Miguel" and "Barney," have tackled the limb deficiency condition by including characters with only one arm. On "Barney," a boy named Andy advised children how to respond to other children who ask, "What happened to your arm?"

"Sesame Street" previously addressed disabilities like cerebral palsy and has included scenes with crutches and wheelchairs but not specifically limb deficiencies, according to a spokeswoman for the Sesame Street Workshop.

Without an Arm, He Can 'Do Anything'

Giuliano Lin was born with an arm similar to Burnell's, developed only to the mid-forearm. "It's like I have an extra tool," he told ABCNews.com. "Instead of having two hammers, I have a hammer and a wrench."

The 12-year-old is an expert fencer, and he swims, makes jewelry and knits with one hand and can play the guitar. "I often forget I don't have a hand," Giuliano said.

"He can do anything," said his mother, Sabina Berretta of Lexington, Mass. "The only thing he can't do is the monkey bars."

But as a child, he struggled with fitting in socially, and Berretta, a Boston psychiatrist, acknowledged, "We are scared about what we don't know."

"Despite our efforts to protect Giuliano, he has been, and still is, the object of blunt, hurtful, comments from young children," said Berretta, who practices at McLean Hospital in Boston. "They have stared at him, yelled out loud. 'Hey! Look! This kid is weird! He does not have a hand.' They threw sand at him because he is a 'monster,' grabbed his arm to look at it without asking and refused to be in the same room because he is 'scary.'"

But, she said, children were were openly told about Giuliano's condition and were able to ask questions, quickly forgot their differences.

Giuliano said he wished there were more television hosts like BBC's Burnell, who might teach children about differences rather than sending a negative message like, "Oh they look different and can't do what we can do. They're really bad and scary.

"I understand people are curious," he said. "But if they can look at it on TV, then they won't stare when they see someone on the street. It makes it a lot easier for us. Some of us have blue eyes, some have green; some have black hair, some are blond; some have two arms and some of us have one."

'I Have Never Hidden My Son's Legs'

Actress Bahar Soomekh was horrified when she learned of the criticism fired at Burnell. Her 3-year-old son, Ezra, was born with a malformed leg and one functioning finger. In order for the boy to have a better functioning prosthetic leg, doctors amputated the limb below the knee. They also transplanted the big toe to make a thumb, so he could utilize his left hand.

"The irony is I did the Academy-award winning 'Crash,' [a movie] about prejudices, and here it's happening at home for me," said the 33-year-old actress, who also appeared in "Mission Impossible III" and "Syriana." "I had to deal with it on the playground and at school every day. The beauty is that I have never hidden my son's legs. He wears shorts."

Ezra, who got his prosthetic leg at 10 months, was walking by 11 months -- way ahead of most of his peers -- and now plays soccer and basketball.

Soomekh undertands the power of role models like Burnell. When the television show, "Barney," had a girl without a hand, Ezra was delighted.

"It meant the world to my son," she said. "It was the most extraordinary thing. When school started the kids said Ezra's hand look the girl on Barney. It's all about familiarity."

Filmmaker Maggie Doben agrees. Her 2008 documentary, "Labeled Disabled" explores how to help children understand physical disabilities. She said Burnell should have introduced herself to her young viewers.

"If she had held up her arm and said, 'You probably have noticed that I have one hand and this is how come," Doben told ABCNews.com. "Within 45 seconds, kids would have moved on."

"Kids have a lot of questions and when they are answered honestly, that's all they need," she said. "When they are left mysterious, that make up answers on their own and that's what is scary."

As for Burnell, Soomekh said parents can help their children by applauding her talent. "Look at how amazing she is. She can hold a book and turn the pages without a hand."

Burnell's supporters seem to agree and flooded the CBeebies message boards this week with praise for her work.

"I think it is great," wrote "Suzz" of Greater Manchester. "TV needs to represent everyone. My toddler was amazed that she can do normal things with her 'shorter.'"

Others said their preschool children had faithfully watched the show and "never batted an eyelid."

"Education is so important for bringing up smart adults who know how to interact with each other in the world," said Amanda Moment, who was born with one hand and mentors children with limb deficiencies as part of her work with the organization Helping Hands.

"All of my life, children have asked me what happened, and it's really a matter of simple education," she told ABCNews.com "They satisfy themselves that it doesn't hurt and it's not scary, then they go on with their lives."

For more information go to Helping Hands Foundation , REACH , the Amputee Coalition of America or the documentary, "Labeled Disabled."

Copyright © 2009 ABC News Internet Ventures

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Thanks for posting all that info, Johnny. :smile: I'm actually surprised more people haven't posted here, as I thought there would at least be a discussion? :unsure:

Filmmaker Maggie Doben agrees. Her 2008 documentary, "Labeled Disabled" explores how to help children understand physical disabilities. She said Burnell should have introduced herself to her young viewers.

"If she had held up her arm and said, 'You probably have noticed that I have one hand and this is how come," Doben told ABCNews.com. "Within 45 seconds, kids would have moved on."

Anyway, I disagree with Maggie Doben, as I don't think she (Cerrie Burnell) should have said anything about her arm - I think Cerrie did the right thing. Other presenters don't announce things about their anatomy, so why should she? To draw attention to it makes it 'special', and to her it's perfectly normal. :smile:

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Thanks for posting all that info, Johnny. :smile: I'm actually surprised more people haven't posted here, as I thought there would at least be a discussion? :unsure:

Filmmaker Maggie Doben agrees. Her 2008 documentary, "Labeled Disabled" explores how to help children understand physical disabilities. She said Burnell should have introduced herself to her young viewers.

"If she had held up her arm and said, 'You probably have noticed that I have one hand and this is how come," Doben told ABCNews.com. "Within 45 seconds, kids would have moved on."

Anyway, I disagree with Maggie Doben, as I don't think she (Cerrie Burnell) should have said anything about her arm - I think Cerrie did the right thing. Other presenters don't announce things about their anatomy, so why should she? To draw attention to it makes it 'special', and to her it's perfectly normal. :smile:

Do agree with what you are saying Lizzie, and am also surprised there hasn't been more discussion here. I go on another discussion site, (not an amputee site, but general disability) and there has been lots of postings about this.

Also agree about 'making it special', one reason why I dislike the term 'special needs' esp in schools, think that term actually causes problems.

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I must admit that I expected some sort of "debate" to break out as well... but perhaps everyone is simply as depressed as I was to read about such idiotic "complaints" from the parents. (Notice that it's not the kids who are complaining.....sigh...)

I'm of two minds about whether or not the presenter should make any mention of her limb difference. I can see Lizzie and Ann's point of view, and in an ideal world I agree with it. However, this isn't an ideal world, and this situation has the potential to be a "teachable moment" for the young viewers (and their parents). Some simple explanation of the situation might be a good thing; although I don't think it's necessarily the "responsibility" of the presenter to do so, she seems to be the one who could best accomplish that task.

One thing I've discovered on my own since my amp is that there is a genuine concern on the part of "bystanders" that I might be in pain. "Does it hurt?" is usually somewhere around question number two or three that I'm asked, if anyone's asking. Assuring them that "it does NOT hurt" seems to make everyone much more comfortable. I can imagine a child wondering if the presenter's arm "hurts" and being concerned about that... in time they would probably figure out that it's "just normal," but I can see where getting an explaination that it's not a "hurting" type of thing would be reassuring to the kids.

Oh well... I guess I'm just wishy-washy.........

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Thanks for posting all that info, Johnny. :smile: I'm actually surprised more people haven't posted here, as I thought there would at least be a discussion? :unsure:

I was looking for some discussion too but, honestly, I was speechless. I still don't know what to say. It's hard to believe there are people still living in the dark ages where a physical difference is concerned. I don't know whether or not the presenter herself should say something about it but the children DO notice. On the other hand, when the kids notice, this should open positive discussion between parents and their children.

Children are very accepting. I guess it's the parents who need thrashing. :angry:

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Is there no end to man's inhumanity to man? WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE? I sincerely hope that none of these parents ever have a "challenged" (in any sense) child.

JudyH

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I'm of two minds about whether or not the presenter should make any mention of her limb difference. I can see Lizzie and Ann's point of view, and in an ideal world I agree with it. However, this isn't an ideal world, and this situation has the potential to be a "teachable moment" for the young viewers (and their parents). Some simple explanation of the situation might be a good thing; although I don't think it's necessarily the "responsibility" of the presenter to do so, she seems to be the one who could best accomplish that task.

I tend to agree.........

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(A discussion - that's better :smile:)

I can understand why some of you think that something should be said, and I agree it should. However, in this case, because she isn't in face-to-face contact with her audience, I don't think it's up to the presenter. I think it should be something like a press release or an article (with lots of positive images) in, say, a parenting magazine ... released about the same time she first presented. Also, for those not in the UK, the kiddies we're talking about here are very young, pre-school children.

The reason why I suggest that the presenter shouldn't say something about her arm is because it's the parents who should be doing the 'educating'. I think we all know that very young children are 'emotional sponges' and they pick up things - good and bad. They will also tend to believe the parent rather than a stranger on television - they will naturally take their lead (including any prejudice) from their parents.

My own kids (who are now young adults) were absolutely fine with my legs as they were growing up. OK, it was normal for them, but I also did quite a bit of gentle educating (in the form of positive behaviour) with them. They thought my legs were so normal that they used to try them on (and get very frustrated when their little legs wouldn't fit my prostheses :wub: ) and one of them asked one, very stunned, woman, who had 'intact' legs, 'How can you be a mummy?! Mummies don't have legs ... daddies have legs!' :rolleyes:

I've read some of the message boards about Cerrie presenting a childrens programme. Many of the comments are positive, but some of them show a distinct ignorance. Some people suggest she should wear a prosthetic arm, others say that they've explained her arm in scarey terms (e.g. they tell their child that she had it 'chopped off' when she touched something the parent didn't want the child messing about with) and others talk about it all being an equal opportunties hype and how she wouldn't normally have got the job. All these comments suggest parent ignornace, not little kiddies inquiring mind ... I think it's very sad. :sad:

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(A discussion - that's better :smile:)

My own kids (who are now young adults) were absolutely fine with my legs as they were growing up. OK, it was normal for them, but I also did quite a bit of gentle educating (in the form of positive behaviour) with them. They thought my legs were so normal that they used to try them on (and get very frustrated when their little legs wouldn't fit my prostheses :wub: ) and one of them asked one, very stunned, woman, who had 'intact' legs, 'How can you be a mummy?! Mummies don't have legs ... daddies have legs!' :rolleyes:

Ah, do have memories of one of mine trying to put them on, but am feeling quite guilty now, not sure if I did any 'gentle educating', I did tell them often and from probably before they understood why I didn't have legs and why. And they regularly accompanied me to limb centres, but they did have contact with other childrens mothers who did have legs, so I think did realize. I can remember my daughter though, at the age of about three or four, I think used to try and educate the rest of the world. LOL. and tell everyone about my legs. However, having said that I did have a much younger cousin, who was actually born a couple of days after I had my legs amputated and so he grew up with me wearing limbs and actually never realized, and, everybody had neglected to tell him as it was 'assummed' he knew. When he was about eight he came to visit me one day and I wasn't wearing my legs, and he really did get a shock so it was a bit of a lesson learned for me, and I think for other family members.

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Ah, do have memories of one of mine trying to put them on, but am feeling quite guilty now, not sure if I did any 'gentle educating', I did tell them often and from probably before they understood why I didn't have legs and why. And they regularly accompanied me to limb centres, but they did have contact with other childrens mothers who did have legs, so I think did realize. I can remember my daughter though, at the age of about three or four, I think used to try and educate the rest of the world. LOL. and tell everyone about my legs. However, having said that I did have a much younger cousin, who was actually born a couple of days after I had my legs amputated and so he grew up with me wearing limbs and actually never realized, and, everybody had neglected to tell him as it was 'assummed' he knew. When he was about eight he came to visit me one day and I wasn't wearing my legs, and he really did get a shock so it was a bit of a lesson learned for me, and I think for other family members.

You lost yours in a slightly different way to me though, Ann - mine was for similar reasons to Cerrie. There's no harm in telling kids the truth, and being open and honest, but to make up stories I think is wrong. One of the parents messages I read actually laughed at their kids' reaction. :wacko:

As for your cousin ... ahh, poor chap ... it must have been a real shock? But, a situation he could relate to, I expect, after he'd recovered? :wink:

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I am mum to Edward, who is a quad amputee aged 9 1/4, (the quater is important at 9!). Anyway, I have to say that we have NEVER heard anything bad re: Edwards amputations, yes, sometimes people stare but that is cos they are curious. Edward has been in magazines, newspapers, up to loads of local schools and regularly features in the local paper. We decided that it was up to us to ensure that Edward lived a full life and that we have to help educate the ignorant. We always drill into him that if he EVER does get any not nice comments then it is their problem not his.

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We always drill into him that if he EVER does get any not nice comments then it is their problem not his.

Good for you! :biggrin:

Edward won't get too many comments, at the moment, because the 'unpleasantness' comes from adults. It's a good idea to be prepared, though.

By the way, I looked at your website, clarelou, and Edward looks a really happy little lad. :smile:

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11...s-tell-BBC.html

One-armed presenter is scaring children, parents tell BBC By Liz Thomas

Last updated at 4:05 PM on 23rd February 2009

A disabled CBeebies presenter has been the victim of a disturbing campaign after parents complained that she was scaring toddlers.

They claimed that host Cerrie Burnell - who was born with one arm - is not suitable to appear on the digital children's channel.

Miss Burnell and co-presenter Alex Winters took over the popular Do and Discover slot and The Bedtime Hour programme last month.

Controversial: Cerrie Burnell was born with one arm

But the decision to hire her has prompted a flurry of complaints to the BBC and on parenting message boards, with some of the posts on the CBeebies website becoming so vicious that they had to be removed.

Incredibly, one father said he wanted to ban his daughter from watching the channel because he feared it would give her nightmares.

Others claimed that they were forced to discuss difficult issues with their young children before they were ready.

One blogger wrote: 'Is it just me, or does anyone else think the new woman presenter on CBeebies may scare the kids because of her disability?

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This says how much of the world turns their head on people with limb differences, and how much that they need to be educated. The kids don't have the problem. It's closed minded and biased adults that create the probles with childrens perceptions. This holds true with many other things in life as well.

Thanks Johnny,

This is "messed up" but true of the world and how peoples perceptions are so shallow and outwardly.I have come to appreciate people on what is their inner spirit and character. It really doesn't matter what is on the outside, the physical appearance, thats not to say we shouldn't take care of ourselves.

Take care, Mark :biggrin:

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